Family is everything.
How many times have you heard this phrase? Many times, I bet.
As a culture, we idealize family.
Family means closeness, love, support, loyalty, and a deep connection to our roots.
When we say of a friend “She/he is like family to me,” we mean to say that they have entered our inner circle.
But not everyone grew up in a close-knit, loving family.
Some of you had a distinct (dis)pleasure of growing up with an abusive or narcissistic mother.
This means that you grew up anticipating and satisfying your mother’s numerous emotional needs, and feeling like you can never measure up to her insane standards.
And although you’ve tolerated her abuses for most of your life, now that you have children, things are different.
Having children changes you.
It can give you insights into your own childhood, and help you recognize that the things you experienced as a child were not normal. It can help you heal, too.
But it also puts you face-to-face with a sometimes impossible choice:
Do I let my narcissistic mother around my children?
This is a sensitive subject.
I find that people get emotional and defensive whenever the topic of no contact with grandparents comes up.
And there are always a few grandparents in the mix who feel that they are being attacked. To them, I propose all grandchildren be taken away from all grandparents immediately, and be kept away, forever and ever.
The very idea that a grandparent can be toxic, and shouldn’t be allowed contact with the grandchildren is intolerable to some people.
And I understand that sentiment. Having grandparents is a wonderful, enriching experience, just like having aunts, uncles, cousins…You want your kids to enjoy an extended family.
But what’s the real price of having a narcissistic grandmother in your child’s life? Is she harmless or will she cause your children the same pain she inflicted on you (or your partner)?
For a more in-depth look at the damage a narcissistic grandmother can inflict on her grandchildren, read 10 Ways a Narcissistic Grandmother Can Harm Your Children
How do I know if no contact is the right choice?
I wish there was a clear-cut answer to that question, but dealing with narcissistic grandmothers is usually messy and complicated, with multiple family members chiming in on the situation, and mudding the water even more.
The only way you can stay grounded is by trusting your gut, having a united front with your partner, putting your personal feelings aside, and focusing on your children’s best interests.
In other words, how you approach that dilemma depends on how you, as parents, define your children’s highest good.
If you feel like it’s important to have every grandparent and relative around, no matter the merits of their personality, as long as they’re family — then, by all means, let your narcissistic mother take a stab at being a good grandmother.
This is a valid choice for some families, provided the parents exercise control and vigilance, especially when it comes to unsupervised time with a narcissistic grandparent.
However, if you believe that a narcissistic grandmother can and does cause serious damage to your children, you might be considering going no contact with her. This is a proper choice:
- in severe cases of narcissism or another mental disorder;
- in cases that involve a history of physical, emotional, or sexual abuse;
- with narcissistic grandmothers who suffer from long-term alcohol or substance abuse;
- whenever both parents find the narcissistic grandmother’s behavior intolerable or damaging to their kids.
Every family is different. What’s acceptable to some would be a deal-breaker to others. So it all boils down to what you and your partner find intolerable.
Going no contact with a narcissistic grandmother
Before going no contact with a narcissistic grandmother, there is one thing you need to understand: this isn’t going to be easy, and this isn’t going to be pleasant.
But if you’re determined to remove a malignant, narcissistic grandmother from your children’s lives, follow these steps:
1. Write a letter informing of your decision to cut ties
You can be as detailed or as brief as you’d like to be. If you’re sending it through mail, make it a registered letter to confirm receipt.
You can also simply place a call, send an email or a text, or skip the announcement altogether.
But the letter makes it more official, and in case you’ll ever need to involve the legal system, you’ll have proof of your intent to go No Contact.
Here is a basic template you can use for a no-contact letter.
Dear Mom,
I’m writing to inform you that as of today, I’m ceasing all forms of contact with you, and I’m requesting you to do the same. Do not contact me, my spouse, or my children via calls, texts, social media, email, in person, through family members, friends, or by any other means.
Please understand that I’m not writing this out of anger. I have thought a lot about it, and this is not a decision I’ve made lightly. This is what I believe is in the best interests of my children. I know it will be hard for you to accept, but I need you to respect it. I do not want any contact with you. If you try to contact me, my spouse, or my children, I am prepared to take legal action for harassment.
2. Be ready for the reaction from the family
I’ll be honest with you, it’s going to be a sh*tstorm. You’ll have relatives coming at you from all directions, aiming to change your mind.
They’ll be trying to convince you that you’re making a huge mistake, overreacting, being cruel to your “poor mother,” threatening to cut ties with you if you go through with this, attacking your values, morals, etc.
Of course, this is very intentional. The narcissistic grandmother will use her considerable manipulative powers to turn the family members into her “flying monkeys,” so they can put pressure on you to break no contact.
In my experience, these family members usually have good intentions. They genuinely think that they’re helping to mend a family, mediate a fight, or bridge some differences.
They’ll be sympathetic to your plight, but ultimately they just want you to start talking to mom/grandma again, so everything can go back to normal.
It’s disappointing not to have the support of your family when you’re standing up to narcissistic abuse. But don’t take it to heart. It’s not personal.
Most people are brainwashed with an idea that family is everything, and that you’re stuck with yours no matter the treatment you receive.
This simply isn’t true. A lot of people choose to remove toxic, abusive family members from their lives. And most of them deal with judgment and social stigma after they do.
3. Be ready for the smear campaign
The narcissistic grandmother won’t sit idly by either. She will get to work, trying to turn everyone against you, playing her favorite role: victim.
Most relatives will likely be on her side. But it’s not enough.
She’ll want to make everyone she knows aware of what a horrible, ungrateful, cruel person you are. She’ll want them to feel sorry for her, and to be angry at you.
What kind of monster takes grandchildren away from their grandmother?! That’s the question she wants to be on everyone’s lips.
If she’s successful with her smear campaign, you might be ostracized from your family and community, judged, and even harassed.
The narcissist’s smear campaign is a multilayered attack. It’s meant to villainize you as a person, absolve the narcissist of any sins or mistakes, and also to rewrite history.
Everything you’ve experienced as a child will be twisted to fit the narcissistic grandmother’s fabricated version of events.
You’ll be gaslighted.
You’ll be accused of things you never said or did.
And you’ll be painted as someone who’s always been a black sheep in an otherwise decent, respectable family.
“Every family has one,” they’ll say.
Should you try to defend yourself against the smear campaign? You can try, but most people who are not familiar with narcissistic abuse will not understand it, and will not see your side of the story.
Besides, if you’re defending yourself, you’re still engaging with the narcissistic grandmother. No contact involves the cessation of all contact: physical, financial, and most importantly, emotional.
Here’s a blog post about what no contact with a narcissist really entails, and how to avoid making huge mistakes:
10 Grave Mistakes to Avoid When Going No Contact with a Narcissist
4. Talk to your kids
This is one of the trickiest parts of going no contact with a narcissistic grandmother. What do you tell your kids?
Many parents who’ve decided to cut ties with an abusive grandparent struggle with this part.
The idea of telling their children the truth about their grandmother is scary, and guilt-inducing. They’d rather make something up to shield their kids from reality.
This is where you need to make a personal judgment based on your kids’ age, emotional resiliency, their relationship with their grandmother, and the probability that one day you may break No Contact.
If future contact is out of the question and your kids are old enough to understand the concept of emotional abuse, be honest.
For younger kids, I would also recommend honesty, but in a gentler form. Just don’t tell them outright lies — kids are more perceptive than we give them credit for.
5. Create physical distance
It’s awfully hard to implement No Contact when you live next door to the grandmother.
That’s why your best bet is to create as much physical distance between you as possible. Move to another city or state, if you can.
If you already live far away, you understood long ago that the further away you are from a narcissistic parent, the better.
Physical distance helps create emotional distance. It will also make it easier to handle the “flying monkeys,” and eliminate the possibility of running into her at social events.
6. Do NOT engage no matter what
This is the hardest part of initiating No Contact: staying No Contact no matter what, no matter what she throws at you.
A narcissistic grandmother is extremely manipulative, so she will try to engage you through guilt, shame, pity, or some other low-vibrational emotion.
Here is a prediction that’s true in 99% of cases: shortly after you initiate No Contact, a narcissistic grandmother will fall ill with a mysterious but deadly disease.
She will be on her deathbed, extracting maximum pity and outrage from the sympathetic participants in her charade. Said participants will be her willing puppets, trying to rope you back into an abusive relationship with her.
It will take a lot of strength on your part to withstand this barrage of flying monkeys and to stay committed to No Contact. So keep your focus on why you’re doing this: your kids’ mental health.
7. Give yourself time to heal
Going No Contact with a narcissistic grandmother won’t happen all at once. She will probably continue testing your limits and provoking a reaction out of you.
There’ll be moments when you’ll feel angry, bewildered, exhausted, defeated, confused, and questioning your decision…
It’s normal. Give yourself time to move through this transition.
Removing a toxic/narcissistic person from your life will transform your life for the better. It will free up so much of your energy that used to be siphoned off by your mother/grandmother.
But in the beginning, it will feel disorienting and maybe even frightening…You’ve been trauma-bonded with a narcissist, so it will take some time before you can fully heal and be free.
The longer you’re away from her, the stronger you will feel. So be kind to yourself, and accept the ambiguity and the guilt you might be experiencing in the beginning. It will pass.
I decided to go no contact with a narcissistic grandmother. Now what?
If you’ve chosen to go no contact with a narcissistic mother/grandmother, I know you’re at the end of your rope. It’s not what you want to do, but it is what you have to do.
It might be one of the hardest things you’ll ever have to do in your life. But as hard as it is, you are doing what any good parent would do: protecting your children. And you should be proud of that.
You are a way better parent than your mother ever was. So give yourself credit for doing the hard thing, that also happens to be the right thing.
I know you will get through this, and you will be better and stronger for it.
This is an act of love and empowerment. You are refusing to continue being a willing victim, and you won’t allow your children to become victims, too.
Trust your own judgment, and don’t let anyone make you feel guilty for choosing what’s best for your family.
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Katie says
Curious is someone has any advice on my current situation, we have been no contact with my husbands mother for over a year and she has started approaching our children at school. They have had no contact either as we believed it detrimental to them. Seeing her has caused distress to our children and has made them feel unsafe. Do we break contact to enforce we will be considering legal action? Do we continue to ignore? Feeling very conflicted.
Gina says
I too am in a no contact phase with my mother as well as my brother who was manipulated and brainwashed by her. My child has never had any attention from grandma. Missed quite a few birthdays. An only child- yet over spoils the brother’s child. Now suddenly a Christmas card/gift arrives in the mail addressed to the child. Child is aware of the situation. Not sure what to do with this gift. Mother is created a huge family mess and when I pleaded with her prior to going no contact to fix the situation she did nothing about it- so I just stopped contact and it has now been 6 months. Do I give the child the gift? What would you do? Thank you.
Crystal Griffith says
My grandparents are very controlling of all of their adult children-controlling of whether or not anyone goes to church, and says stuff like “If you don’t go to church, you are going to be living a very miserable lifestyle, and have next to no friends”— and, they are very expectant of what I believe, even if it goes against my personal beliefs/values. They are even against me having certain hairstyles/coloring my hair, even if I know it’s a temporary hair color that washes out in the shower. They lecture me about my diet, and how they think I ought to be as a supposed “good little Christian girl” and it absolutely gets on my nerves, when I try to explain how I honestly feel, even though I was emotionally and verbally abused by a Christian School, when I was 15. I am an adult, and almost 30 years old. Yet, I know that if they told their other children, who had kids of their own, they wouldn’t like it either-and, they are always looking at me as their “favorite granddaughter”—I honestly don’t know whether or not, this is actually a toxic relationship, and should I cut ties with my grandparents, even if my mom won’t? Please help!
Tasha says
I’m going through a rough time with my mother I’m 4 years clean and have gotten custody back if my 8 year old her father and I share week on week off and I’ve recently had a baby a month ago and I’ve recently been seeing my daughter has been taking advantage of my guilt parenting and me being pregnant and exhausted and kinda doing as she pleases so as of lately I’ve taken a big step in parenting and started cutting screen time and electronics and time at the park or fun things when she is blankly not listening to me or her step dad and my mother sees this as me being too hard on her and this is coming from a woman who beat my ass with a wooden spoon and emotionally abused the crap out of me but she has decided that she will not be told how to act with my daughter and I have caught her talking bad about me and my fiancé to my daughter and told her that’s a big no no I will not stand for so now she refuses to not watch what she says or to parent the way I see fit but if I don’t give her time with my daughter I’m keeping my daughter from her and she threatens me with a social worker I’m at a loss of what to do because I’ve already lost my daughter due to my addiction and I’ve fought five years to get her back and now my mother is the one I’m against help!
Isabella says
Hi so i have toxic grandparents. Im 13, but i started to notice this behavior around age 8/9. This is on my father’s side. His father cut ties with my mother over something stupid and refuses to look at her, say hello/goodbye’s, come to the house, send birthday cards, etc. I have started to see this behavior towards my mom, but then I noticed that the same thing was happening to me. No hugs, no cards, no hellos/goodbye’s, no talking about school or sports, refusal to come over to our house. It got kinda bad when it was my sister’s First Communion. He sat across the church, and didn’t come to the party. He also didn’t tell my sister anything. So in October 2020, I confronted him saying “why do you do this, what did i ever do”. His response was “dont raise your voice at me and you didn’t say ‘Hi’ to me, so i stopped saying it to you.” I had to ask him to turn off the TV. My uncle came in and tried to be a mediator, but didn’t help. My dad doesn’t like confrontation. It was me against him with some fatherly support. I asked him if he would come to my High School Graduation, he said “maybe, i dont know”. that sent me into tears and panic attack. He didn’t comfort me and watched me in distress. He told me he loved me. We went home and my mom was proud of me since she’s been going through that for 20 years. We found out that my grandma knew about this for years, but didnt say anything and didnt plan on saying anything. My parents have established No-Contact. My grandma will still text me, and i love her. She’s been at every event. Should I tell her that i dont want contact? My family is shocked, but not suprised. They are like that with everyone. I don’t know what to do. I do know that i dont want contact with him. They have caused me so much stress, anxiety, and depressive episodes. help
Ashley Jenkins says
k so what about being in the process of getting divorced , my ex will not stand up to his mother, she has always been threatened by me, I am a nurse and she has never left the little town she grew up in, and is jealous of my career , I have been given the chance to work in Sask Ont , managing a small Doctors office/ Hospital, and she is trying to prevent me from taking my daughter, she has already begun poisoning my daughter against me , underming me at every chance she gets,,,,help
Lana Adler says
Hi Ashley,
focus on building and nurturing a strong bond with your daughter. If you have a deep emotional connection with her, no one and nothing can come between you. The grandmother can’t take your daughter away from you or poison her against you if you have a great relationship with your child. You are her mother. The courts almost always give the child to the mother, unless the mother is unable to take care of the child. Don’t focus on your MIL. Focus on your daughter.
This is a challenging process – getting divorced when you have children – but know that it will pass, and it will get better. You just have to get through this tough part.
Wishing you strength and wisdom 🙏
Lana
I’m in the same situation. My husband will not stand up for me and has actually gotten upset at me for wanting to confront his mother. He absolutely will not stand up to her. I fear that if I did try to go no-contact that he would ultimately take her side and we’d end up divorced. I don’t want that. We get along so well otherwise. Not sure what to do.
What do I do with a birthday gift my narcissistic mother sent to my 8 year old daughter. We are currently in a no-contact phase. Do I send it back? Send it back with a note. Keep it but not give it to my daughter? Give it to her?
Thanks.
Hi Sara,
that’s a tough one. You’ve said that you’re in no-contact phase. So you perceive resuming contact in the future? If that’s the case, I’d say sending the gift back serves no purpose other than to be hurtful. If you were to cut your mother off for good, then I’d say: don’t accept the gift.
But it’s a personal decision that depends on your specific circumstances. For example, what did you tell your daughter about the situation with the grandmother? What kind of gift is it (is it something lavish?)? Do you see this gift as a violation of a boundary or an attempt to pressure you into resuming contact? Is your daughter allowed to have any contact with the grandmother?
Sincerely,
Lana