When we talk about toxic grandparents, we usually mean controlling, manipulative, or narcissistic individuals who want to be in their grandchildren’s lives. But there is another type of grandparent that isn’t so grand — the indifferent type.
This post will discuss
- signs of indifferent or neglectful grandparents
- possible reasons for the grandparent’s indifference
- how to cope with an apathetic grandparent.
Signs of Indifferent Grandparents
Indifferent grandparents generally show no interest in being in their grandchildren’s lives. The degree of indifference differs but most apathetic grandparents exhibit the following signs.
1. They are always too busy.
There’s always something going on in their lives that’s more important than the grandkids.
2. They never offer to babysit.
Babysitting isn’t something that the grandparents “owe” to the parents; it’s a gift, and hopefully, a joy. But some grandparents are never in the gift-giving mood.
3. They show no interest in their grandchildren.
They show no interest in seeing the grandkids’ pictures or hearing about their latest milestones. That can be particularly hurtful to the parents who feel the pain of rejection in the grandparent’s indifference.
4. They don’t make any effort to spend time with the kids.
It’s not just babysitting. These grandparents aren’t interested in spending any time with the grandkids.
5. They’re often annoyed with the grandkids.
When the kids are around, the grandparent just considers them an annoyance. Think of a grumpy grandpa who always tells the kids to be quiet and stop running around.
6. They don’t try to have fun with the grandkids.
They won’t take them to the park, the zoo, the beach, etc. In other words, they don’t try to make memories with the grandkids.
If they feel they have to make an appearance, they’ll just sit on the couch and wait for when they can make an excuse and leave.
7. They don’t know anything about the grandchildren.
They don’t know the grandkids’ birthdays, favorite foods, toys, or anything else about them. Cute details that delight other grandparents leave them unmoved.
8. When they come to visit, they act cold and distant.
Apathetic grandparents don’t play with the kids or read them stories. They might politely ask some questions, but that’ll be the extent of it.
9. They cancel visits.
Indifferent grandparents habitually cancel visits, often at the last minute. At some point, you just stop expecting anything from them.
10. They can be verbally abusive.
They speak of grandchildren in derogatory terms (brats, crybabies, monsters, pests). Verbal abuse is just one of the ways they show disregard for the grandkids.
11. They were neglectful parents.
Perhaps, they were indifferent as parents, too. It’s common for a parenting style to become a grandparenting style. So if they were neglectful as parents, they won’t be much better as grandparents.
Why Indifferent Grandparents Don’t Care
There may be many reasons for this. The most obvious reason is that your parent doesn’t want to be a grandparent.
One of the most virulent grandparenting myths is that parents, especially mothers, can’t wait to be grandparents.
And that as soon as they hold their grandbaby in their arms, they are entranced by the most intense, blinding love they ever experienced.
In reality, parents might feel reluctant to be grandparents or resist having a new responsibility.
Another factor is age. The grandparent may not feel ready yet for that role. Television and books portray grandparents as silver-haired, wrinkly old folks who like to share stories about the “good old days” and complain of drafts.
But the grandparent demographic has changed. Nowadays, a typical grandparent’s between 40 and 60 years old, with the average age being 47 years old!
Modern grandparents are younger than they used to be. They have active lifestyles, careers, social engagements. They like to travel, take hot yoga classes, play golf, and do other things they didn’t get to do when they were busy raising kids.
They’ve done their part. They fulfilled the societal obligation to become parents. And now they’re done. The last thing some busy grandparents want to do is spend their weekends babysitting, dealing with tantrums, or cleaning up messes.
As one grandparent survey revealed, more than a third of grandparents agree with the statement, “Now that my own children have grown up, I want a life that is free from too many family duties.”
Some reluctance is understandable. Who wants to become a grandma at the peak of their lives?
But when there is a pattern of dismissal, avoidance, or alienation on the grandparent’s part, it’s a problem. Especially if it makes the grandchildren feel abandoned or rejected.
A grandparent like that is indifferent and cold. They have a wall around them that keeps people – not just grandchildren – away.
They see spending time with their grandchildren as a waste, and they act irritated and bothered if kids approach them. Overall, they reject any attempt to engage them in meaningful interaction and remain distant and aloof even with their closest family.
Total indifference is likely to be the case when a grandparent has features of a psychological disorder.
For example, a narcissistic grandparent may “love” the grandkids only if they reflect her own grandiose self-image. If they don’t, she’ll be cold, disapproving, or distant.
Or she may be indifferent to grandchildren altogether because she is too self-centered, and she resents them for taking her attention away from her.
The reasons could also be belief-based. For example, a grandparent might not acknowledge or accept grandchildren who are not biologically related to them (adopted), grandchildren of a different race, grandchildren who are mentally or physically challenged, etc. Needless to say, this is just plain wrong.
The reasons are many – some are more nefarious than others – but the result is the same. The grandparents are absent from the grandchildren’s lives and show little to no interest in being a grandparent, period.
How Indifferent Grandparents Affect Grandkids
Whether or not the kids are affected by the grandparent’s indifference depends on each family’s circumstances, values, and lifestyles.
If the grandparents live far away and the kids barely know them, it’s unlikely to be a big issue. To them, those grandparents are strangers.
On the other hand, kids who regularly see their grandparents will be more sensitive to their lack of interest.
But no matter the circumstances, it’s usually the parents who are hurt the most by the grandparent’s indifference. Here’s one woman’s account of her apathetic in-laws, and how it affects her:
“It breaks my heart to see the kids try so hard to gain your attention – you don’t ask, but they flood you anyway with stories about what they have been doing at school and their achievements, and I sit watching in despair as you nod but show little interest.”
If the kids are regularly exposed to this type of attitude, they will hear the message loud and clear: you are not good enough or important enough for me to care about you.
Children always internalize these kinds of messages. They may feel rejected, discarded, unworthy, or unlovable.
How to Cope With Indifferent Grandparents
If a grandparent shows a complete disregard for the grandchildren, it’s better for everyone if they’re not around. And hopefully, your children can still enjoy a loving connection with another set of grandparents.
So, staying in touch with your extended friends and family circle is very important in this situation. Indifferent grandparents may not want to be your children’s family, but other people do.
Kids benefit from being a part of a “village”. They need love, support, patience, laughter, joy, and attention. They need to be a part of the community. If not grandparents, it can be aunts, uncles, cousins, friends from school, etc.
So if you are dealing with an indifferent grandparent, don’t spend your days lamenting why they are this way, or how to get them involved with the grandkids.
Focus on the people who do want to be in your life and your kids’ lives.
Strengthen your connection to them.
Mommabear says
I’ve been married almost 15 years and my in-laws (husbands mom and step dad) have pretty much never been around unless I invite them to a function or a get together. While I get that his family is more small and very quiet, that side of grandparents has never really cared to see the kids.
There are a total of 4 grand kids. Husband has one sibling and it’s his sister which she’s hated my guts since day one. She’s never liked me. I never disrespected her or his family, until years passed. She has three grand daughters (her daughters kids) and we have a boy and girl. You would think she has only 5 grandkids and would want to be close to them but she’s always had favorites. Another thing is her and my husbands sister have always given our son preferential treatment over our daughter. Like really?? She’s also your grandchild wether you like it or not.
I cannot stand them. Literally cannot stand them so last year I gave my spouse and ultimatum and was just so fed up with stuff and I said it’s either us or his family.
I know that is mean as many would say but when things get bad that you’re on the brink of divorce because of his family and he won’t stand up to them, I’m not gong to keep dealing with that. I also told him I want nothing to do with any of his so called family because of all the turmoil they have caused us. It’s been almost a year since I out my foot down and to this day, they only have seen our son and daughter once and only because it was my sons bday and I did a small get together at our home. Had I not done anything, I’m one thousand percent sure they wouldn’t have come around. Anywho, I lost hope with his family. I thought we were the ones that needed counseling but at how things have spiraled through the years, it’s his family that needs it.
Rebecca says
I did my job raising my son by myself. I’m also a teacher. I don’t have any interest in being a weekend babysitter. I don’t see how that is selfish. I’m only asking for two days to myself.
Debbie says
I am a grandmother in my 60s. I’m also an immigrant from 40 years ago. I see a lot of woman my age who are bitter. They are miserable at their physical appearance (geez old age). they are jealous of their daughter in laws.
the younger generation. because I am a fully participating grandmother I can assure you, you have it harder than we did. times are tuffer for you than it was for me. my heart goes out to you. drop the grandparent that isn’t participating. they are estranging you and your children because they are not good people.
these are your money making years your young and strong. go ahead work hard, have fun with your family. don’t let anyone bog you down.
Short drive says
Inlaws raised my sister in laws kids and her grandkids. We moved 400 miles away, and they visited at first. Then stopped. I invited them to dance recitals, sports games and their son’s 50 birthday. I called my mother in law almost every day. But then I realized they never called me. They had several weeks of vacation time. They’d drive 1,000 miles for other things. Brought the kids to their house every Christmas and summer break. They are too tied down with their other brood. They refuse to let their daughter and now her son and son in law take care of their kids. That’s their choice. And I moved on. My kids are late teenagers and young adults now. But this article is right. It is a rejection.
Fiona Miller says
I have four grandchildren and love them very much. My son has three my daughter has one. I have had some significant health problems for years so don’t feel as energetic as I did.
My daughter in law started being very rude to me before they were even married she didn’t want to come to my sons shared birthday dinner with his brother and made an awful scene and other things like that. I find when I visit there is a very hostile atmosphere. I went for Christmas and I did a lot of food preparation which I supplied and clearing up after and looking after the children while she did nothing at all. She then came back from drinks and started yelling and screaming at me. It’s not always mother in laws that are toxic. I walked out on Christmas Eve I couldn’t go through that for Christmas.I really feel I can’t put myself through that much as I love my grandchildren. My son just runs round after her. .
Herman says
I had several kids and now have lots of grandkids…..I’m “ happy for my kids that they have kids….but they are their kids, not mine “. I’ve done my parenting for 30 years. Nobody ever thanked for all the sacrifices I make. That’s the way kids are.
Lori says
what sacrifices do you need praise for? for having kids and having to raise them? I have two kids and can not wait for them to have grandkids so I can be there for everything that nobody was for me.
John says
So you decided to not be a parent anymore after 30 years? Decided to abandon your kids when they may have some of the most important questions as to how to be a parent themselves? So you decided that you want little to nothing to do with your grandkids?
Sounds like you are an egocentric narcissist who probably shouldn’t have had kids to begin with. I hope your children turn out to be better parents and grandparents than you.
Magda says
It’s very difficult.. I am experiencing this and don’t understand why.. .. my mother doesn’t want to spend any time with my children, she would rather read a book or watch a romantic movie. She sees me and kids only about three times a year but doesn’t make any effort. I find it very hard .
Lynn says
I had tried having heart to hearts with my mother for years and it would never resolve any issues, it only got worse. I wondered why someone would act this way as a grandmother and why she wanted nothing to do with me or my family. I found this page and she fits 8 out of 10 of these. Plus a couple other things. I’ve always dealt with it as best as I can but now my oldest just had a breakdown after she left our house, no kid should have to experience that feeling from a family member. She may honestly need therapy now, me and my husband have tried to make the situation better as best we can but we are at a loss. This is not all grandparents but this is my mother. The grandkids don’t deserve to suffer because of any family member.
Tom says
My gosh let’s just bash grandparents. What about loving parents with good kids but a bit spoiled adult children. What about those of us who give and give and only get met with disapproval or treated as we are obsolete?! You are part of the new generational problem.